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Fifth article: So what if it is a progressive blog? Facts have a liberal bias?

An article by OWS about OWS doesn't mean OWS is prolific.

In other words you didn't even scan the article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking Same basic concept.

They are occupying DC as well, just to address an earlier post. I pass the tent city every day on the way in to work.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/protesters-get-mixed-reaction-from-dc-homeless/2011/10/21/gIQAz7G0FM_story.html?hpid=z2
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More effective pressure to have 50,000 people in one place than 1,000 in 50 places.
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He knew where to go to get his message across. He went to DC. That part of "history" you seem to be conveniently leaving out.


You do realize that the march on DC was a largly symbolic event(just like Occupy Wall St.) and this his message was already out, right?

And a takedown of the letter you had posted earlier.
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Yossarian wrote:
Act X wrote:
He knew where to go to get his message across. He went to DC. That part of "history" you seem to be conveniently leaving out.


You do realize that the march on DC was a largly symbolic event(just like Occupy Wall St.) and this his message was already out, right?

And a takedown of the letter you had posted earlier.

Most of the arguments in that article are wrong. First, they assume that the tuition is 3,000 / year higher than the average. Second, they assume room and board aren't included. The rest of it continues as spotily as that, and it's a pretty poor inquisition.


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Act X wrote:
He knew where to go to get his message across. He went to DC. That part of "history" you seem to be conveniently leaving out.


According to you, DC is the only place to get a message across. As Yossarian correctly notes, the DC event was symbolic. The real change happened with groups like the SPLC and SCLC down in the south in the heart of segregation. In case the analogy's not clear, that would be "New York City" in our case. In many ways a widespread movement is more effective than 50,000 people in one place, because a widespread movement can generate substantially more local support (they have more "locals" to persuade).
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Actually, a recent study echoed in several peer reviewed journals shows that disagreeing with David Holtzman increases your chance of being a moron by 62.5%.
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And they could have started their grassroots campaign in DC, where the people they are pressuring work.

They should be protesting the fact that the government allows companies to fuck people.

They should liken this to what would happen if the FDA didn't exist, and pills were just released with the assumption that people would understand what paracetamol means.

They were unorganized (which is why it's taken a month for anyone to give a fuck), and have only succeeded in spreading the awareness people already had that shit sucks.


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Act X wrote:
Yossarian wrote:
Act X wrote:
He knew where to go to get his message across. He went to DC. That part of "history" you seem to be conveniently leaving out.


You do realize that the march on DC was a largly symbolic event(just like Occupy Wall St.) and this his message was already out, right?

And a takedown of the letter you had posted earlier.

Most of the arguments in that article are wrong. First, they assume that the tuition is 3,000 / year higher than the average. Second, they assume room and board aren't included. The rest of it continues as spotily as that, and it's a pretty poor inquisition.


The fact that she says "I expect nothing handed to me" while taking a 90% scholarship is laughable. I do agree that the argument in the article is weak though.
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The fact that she says "I expect nothing handed to me" while taking a 90% scholarship is laughable. I do agree that the argument in the article is weak though.


Dude, seriously. I lol'd hard the first time I read that.
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And they could have started their grassroots campaign in DC, where the people they are pressuring work.


And they could have flown bicycles to the moon and protested there. Is there a point to all this? Your argument is that politicians would care more if protests were in DC. Putting aside for the moment the fact that there are protestors in DC, why on earth do you think we've moved past how stupid your argument is? Remember, politicians work (sometimes) in DC, but they get elected back home. You think they give a shit about how people in some other place think of them? If that were true we wouldn't have Michele Bachmann.

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They were unorganized (which is why it's taken a month for anyone to give a fuck), and have only succeeded in spreading the awareness people already had that shit sucks.


It is truly bizarre that you don't count a protest movement spreading dissatisfaction as a win. I'll give you a hint: what do you think makes people become protestors?
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Actually, a recent study echoed in several peer reviewed journals shows that disagreeing with David Holtzman increases your chance of being a moron by 62.5%.
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Act X wrote:
First, they assume that the tuition is 3,000 / year higher than the average.


Yossarian's Link wrote:
I took the information contained in this photo and put it up against the numbers. I used the stats for Seattle, Washington, because that’s where I live, and it’s also where many of the people who I’m friends with on Facebook who posted this photo live.


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Second, they assume room and board aren't included.


Act's Link wrote:
Public four-year colleges charge, on average, $7,605 per year in tuition and fees for in-state students. The average surcharge for full-time out-of-state students at these institutions is $11,990.
Private nonprofit four-year colleges charge, on average, $27,293 per year in tuition and fees.
Public two-year colleges charge, on average, $2,713 per year in tuition and fees.

Of course, that’s not the total price. You still have to live somewhere, eat, buy books and supplies, and do your laundry. Read more about additional college costs you need to consider.


You could have read your own source, you know.


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And they could have started their grassroots campaign in DC, where the people they are pressuring work.


And they could have flown bicycles to the moon and protested there. Is there a point to all this? Your argument is that politicians would care more if protests were in DC. Putting aside for the moment the fact that there are protestors in DC, why on earth do you think we've moved past how stupid your argument is? Remember, politicians work (sometimes) in DC, but they get elected back home.

It'd be hard to find a New York politician that's going to be anti-Wall Street.

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They were unorganized (which is why it's taken a month for anyone to give a fuck), and have only succeeded in spreading the awareness people already had that shit sucks.


It is truly bizarre that you don't count a protest movement spreading dissatisfaction as a win. I'll give you a hint: what do you think makes people become protestors?

Haven't said they aren't slowly progressing, just that it would have been more effective to put the focus of their protest on the government. Even setting aside their physical location - their demands (which we all acknowledge are a joke), and their stated dissatisfactions have not been with Politicians.

@Yoss - First 2 quotes mean nothing, him using his own town is an excuse to over charge things he was too stupid to find an average for. Second 2 yeah my bad, googling for single lines does that.
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Act X wrote:
It'd be hard to find a New York politician that's going to be anti-Wall Street.


That's what protests are for. Remember that "public pressure" thing I mentioned?

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Haven't said they aren't slowly progressing, just that it would have been more effective to put the focus of their protest on the government. Even setting aside their physical location - their demands (which we all acknowledge are a joke), and their stated dissatisfactions have not been with Politicians.


Act X: Foreseer of all that is effective in protests. Maybe you can teach me how to peer into the alternate realities where you learned which route would have been more effective.
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Actually, a recent study echoed in several peer reviewed journals shows that disagreeing with David Holtzman increases your chance of being a moron by 62.5%.
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Wait wait you people are still arguing about this shit?
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Act X wrote:
Yossarian wrote:
Act X wrote:
He knew where to go to get his message across. He went to DC. That part of "history" you seem to be conveniently leaving out.


You do realize that the march on DC was a largly symbolic event(just like Occupy Wall St.) and this his message was already out, right?

And a takedown of the letter you had posted earlier.

Most of the arguments in that article are wrong. First, they assume that the tuition is 3,000 / year higher than the average. Second, they assume room and board aren't included. The rest of it continues as spotily as that, and it's a pretty poor inquisition.


Their assumptions are very conservative compared to the blatant lies of that propaganda picture.
I don't understand how you can confuse Average with Typical. If I give you the numbers people face in NYC it will be even worse.

There's a huge problem in America where knowing people supersedes merit. It may be much worse already in other countries, but it also exists here and growing worse.
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