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Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 119

Since the other thread got blackouted and I'm somewhat interested in a few of the cans of worms ANet is trying to open here, I made this one. Here's what I read into it:

ANet is trying to diversify interrupts.
ANet is trying to buff EDenial.
Fast Casting.
Seeping Wound.

Mainly I'm interested in the implications of EDenial. Buffing interrupts is fairly uninteresting aside from the botting implications. Fast Casting should have happened long ago, and frankly does not have a huge impact on the game at this point since most of the things it was abused for are gone. Seeping Wound we all knew was coming. It looks like it's probably still playable in corner cases, but will not be dominant.

On the subject of EDenial, seems like they missed the boat entirely. Very few non-warrior bars are susceptible to it any more (but for some reason people still play PLeak). I think stapling extra abilities to EDenial is just going to make people play the skills for those abilities if they're worth it without the purple numbers. If they actually wanted to buff EDenial, I think they needed to get rid of some of the bottomless energy pools first.

The idea of Panic's new functionality is solid. It is one of the few significant AoE threats remaining. Damage just doesn't do it anymore in the majority of matches. If they're bringing Ward back--which is fine--they need methods to punish it. I'm not sure Panic is good enough to do that, though, and Rodgort simply isn't enough damage giving how much healing is available on the cheap right now (not to be confused with party healing, which most people seem to think is much better than it actually is), though that is a separate issue.

As for the rest of it, mostly it just looks like they stapled more damage and/or AoE to Dom, as if they want Dom back in the game, but do not understand why, and are taking the reasons it was largely considered desirable away. Are they really this clueless? (No, you don't need to quote that question and answer yes.) This does not make a compelling case for the sequel.

Thoughts?

Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 30

im still not 100% sure on the update yet,not sure if i like it or not.the one thing that amazed me was the buff to mes when pvp is infested with interrupt bots so now the only skills you were going to get off 1/4 casts ect are now going to be smashed by panic and good luck getting a veil/convert/remove ect off as its going to get hit by the bot that just cast panic,spend less time worrying about wastrals worry and ward v melee and start worrying about how to get interrupt bots out of gw imo.there is already cancle cast bots to counter the original rupt bot now,imo fck skill balance for a few months and sort out the real problems of the game.

Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 234

I think the broad strokes of reducing available frequency of blind skills, making ward melee less bad, and giving mesmers a few more ward-busting tools are pretty good in general. The buffs to mes hexes & interrupts are just bad ideas.

Overall they still have the weaker idea that buffs are the way to get a more diverse meta. I can imagine someone feeling nostalgic about the mature prophecies metagame with EvIL using ward melee, surge/weariness/wrack mesmers, etc. and thinking about buffing that stuff until it sees play. Un-nerfing stuff that wasn't too bad originally is reasonable, but the problem still comes back to ignoring all of the other power creep in the game.

Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 650 Location: Kansas

lol bots will carry teams even more...

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 341

how the fuck did giving mesmers an aoe 3 sec knockdown rupt that can rupt anything ever look like a good idea?

Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 687 Location: Hollywood

The Mesmer buffs are just ridiculous but the ones that piss me off most are probably Mantra of Persistence and Spiritual Pain. When a skill has been completely broken in the past, and nerfed for good reason, why on Earth would you go back and buff the skill so that it's just as good or better than it was originally?!?

I can't wait to see the 5 Mesmer + 3 Monk teams again.